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tedwarren

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Fly Fishingfor Bass?
« on: March 28, 2011, 09:47:53 PM »
FLY FISHING FOR BASS?

“Absolutely!”, says Ted Warren who is the local organizer of the 2nd World Championship Bass on The Fly Fishing Tournament. 

While there aren’t many bass fishermen in East Texas who fly fish for bass, there are a lot of folks who bow hunt for deer.  Fly fishing for bass is like bow hunting for deer.  Sure you can increase your chances of getting a deer, and perhaps even a bigger deer, using a rifle but utilizing a bow adds to the challenge, skill, and reward of hunting for deer.

It’s the same way for bass fishing.  Sure, you can probably catch more, and maybe bigger, bass using a bait caster or spinning outfit.  But, are you up to the challenge of developing the skill and patience to catch bass on a fly rod?  The excitement of catching a bass of any size on a fly rod  certainly surpasses that of overpowering them with conventional tackle.  On Lake Fork, catching fish below and in the slot is fun and exciting rather than boring and something to complain about.  And shouldn’t that be our primary motivation for fishing?

For some reason fly fishing went from freshwater trout fishing to saltwater fishing and bypassed bass fishing.  Some say that’s because of the “bubba factor” – bass fishermen are essentially meat hunters rather than sport fishermen.  Others say it’s because fly fishermen are snobbish and the sport is too expensive.   If either of these statements were ever true, they are no longer true.  While working in a fly shop in Colorado in the Summer, I meet hundreds of ordinary folks who want to learn to fly fish even though they use conventional tackle the rest of the year.  And many of these folks are Texas bass fishermen!  In addition, the cost of good fly fishing equipment has come down in recent years and is now comparable to conventional bass fishing tackle. 

While I am a dedicated bass fishermen, I’ve come to appreciate the challenge of fly fishing for trout and now bass.  Since I don’t know anyone who really fishes for bass as a food source, I believe bass fishermen are sport fishermen at heart.  You don’t have to use a fly rod to fish for bass but it sure is fun when you’re out there to relax.

But, does a fly fishing tournament for bass make sense.  Absolutely!  When everyone  uses the same equipment, it’s a level playing field and many of us enjoy a little competition in our chosen sport.  Since Ray Scott started B.A.S.S tournaments bass fishing has exploded, techniques and equipment have continually improved, and conservation  has gained significant attention. 

While there my be some die hard fly fishing traditionalists who will never approve of competitive fly fishing, there are plenty of fly fishermen who are interested in the sanctioned trout fly fishing competitions around the world.  So, if there are successful trout fishing tournament and successful bass fishing tournament doesn’t it make sense to have a fly fishing tournament for bass?  The Fly fishing industry could certainly use a shot in the arm by engaging the 10 million bass fishermen and B.A.S.S. proved that tournaments do that.

Apparently some manufacturers think so as they have developed fly rods specifically for bass fishing.  And, one of our local Lake Fork guides  is part of a group asked to advise one of the national bass fishing organizations about organizing tournaments exclusively for fly fishing.  So, let’s  enable more folks to enjoy a fly fishing experience close to where they live that includes education, resource conservation, and a little competition.

This years World Championship Bass on The Fly Fishing Tournament will be held May 21, 2011 at Lake Fork Marina.  More details and an entry form can be found at www.bassonthefly.org.   This tournament is endorsed by the Federation of Fly Fishers – Southern Council.  A portion of the proceeds are donated to the Federation of Fly Fishers.

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Re: Fly Fishingfor Bass?
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2011, 06:04:30 AM »
Interesting article but your analogy about fly fishing and bowhunting being similar is flawed.  Having experienced 44 bowhunting seasons I can say with confidence that a compound and traditional bow are as dis-similiar as bait casting is to fly rodding.

Conventional fishing and fly fishing differ in that one tosses the line carrying the lure with it, and the other tosses the lure carrying the line with it.

Compound bows use wheels, cams and mechanical advantage to allow ease in holding at full draw. 

Traditional bows require the archer to hold the entire drawing weight at full draw.

Traditional archery may have something in common with fly fishing but comparing the compound to fly fishing is a stretch.

   
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Re: Fly Fishingfor Bass?
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2011, 06:46:02 AM »
I do see some similar traits to bow hunting and bass fishing but  I think its more in the stealth involved.  On a clear water lake a spin or cast fisherman has an advantage in that he can fish further from the fish, thus avoid some of the problems of fly fishing.  In fly fishing; like bow hunting, you have to be closer to the prey; thus more stealth is required.  I just can't cozy up to fly fishing tournaments for bass; its probably because I'm such a purist ;D

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Re: Fly Fishingfor Bass?
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2011, 07:05:16 AM »
I get enough competion from the fish, let alone the other fisherman.
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« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2011, 10:05:39 AM »
  I just can't cozy up to fly fishing tournaments for bass; its probably because I'm such a purist ;D

Now that's funny!!!  :D
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« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2011, 10:57:22 AM »
"I get enough competion from the fish, let alone the other fisherman."

Amen James. 

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« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2011, 12:54:51 PM »
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I just can't cozy up to fly fishing tournaments for bass; its probably because I'm such a purist

LOL, OMG, that made coffee come out of my nose.  Gene, the purist.  Now that really made my day.
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tedwarren

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Re: Fly Fishingfor Bass?
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2011, 08:56:56 AM »
Cliff, Thanks for the bow hunting info.  I'll make the change you suggested.
One thing I've learned from tournaments is that I'm really not as bad of a fisherman as I thought.  There are a lot of guys who don't catch many fish.
Not sure about the pure & cozy guys, if you know what I mean.

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« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2011, 12:43:41 PM »
Ted,
I enjoyed your talk at the Caddo Conclave last Saturday.  I like the way you changed the Bow hunting analogy.  Fly fishing, to me, is a more intimate relationship with the water and fish than bait casting.  I still have spinning gear that I use on the coast, but I would rather fly fish.

As for tournaments, I was reading in the book, "50 Places to Fly Fish Before You Die" about still water fishing in England, and was surprised to find that fly fishing tournaments on still water reservoirs in England have been happening on every major reservoir for over 50 years.  As I have found out so many times, when you think you have come up with something new, you need to review your history.

Good luck with the tournament.  I wish I could be there.
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Re: Fly Fishingfor Bass?
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2011, 02:54:00 PM »
Interesting article but your analogy about fly fishing and bowhunting being similar is flawed.  Having experienced 44 bowhunting seasons I can say with confidence that a compound and traditional bow are as dis-similiar as bait casting is to fly rodding.

Conventional fishing and fly fishing differ in that one tosses the line carrying the lure with it, and the other tosses the lure carrying the line with it.

Compound bows use wheels, cams and mechanical advantage to allow ease in holding at full draw. 

Traditional bows require the archer to hold the entire drawing weight at full draw.

Traditional archery may have something in common with fly fishing but comparing the compound to fly fishing is a stretch.

 
I think it was meant as an overall comparison of flyfishing to bowhunting in general. We could get nitpickiy and say that flyfishing with a graphite rod vs. bamboo is world apart. But it a generalization.Geez even golfers could argue about wood clubs vs. modern materials and how that takes away the challenge,lol. I'd also like to add I've got 30+ years of bowhunting, both compound and stickbow. And there are times when a stickbow has an advantage just like there are times when a flyrodder has an advantage.
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Re: Fly Fishingfor Bass?
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2011, 05:53:40 PM »
I'd be all over bowfishing for bass 8)... Tried hardcore bass fishing for couple years with drunks I was hanging with. Seemed not very exciting. Rather catfish if we got to use baitcasters.  I try to avoid the things really.
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Re: Fly Fishingfor Bass?
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2011, 10:09:16 PM »
I think I would enjoy a bass fishing competition using fly rods only. I think I would prefer a different set of judging criteria from the BASS guys though. For example, what if the emphasis was placed on the total number of inches of fish you caught in a given time period instead of heaviest weight for your top fish. This would mirror the international rules that are already in use by the guys that are on the US fly fishing team. I was listening to a podcast two weeks ago about their judging system. It seemed so much more equitable than the BASS system.

UNder the BASS systrem, the guy who catches the largest fish wins the tournament. UNder the international fly fishing competition system , the guy who catches a lot of small fish can win the tournament. I don't recall all of the details about the judging, but it seemed like an interesting way to judge a fishing tournament. If I recall correctly, there was some sort of bonus for catching a pig of a fish.


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Re: Fly Fishingfor Bass?
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2011, 10:12:28 PM »
Found the podcast I was looking for. http://www.itinerantangler.com/podcasts/2010/10/podcast_euronymphing_with_rand.html

There are some pretty good podcasts on that site.
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