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General Discussion / Re: Casting Performance of $100+ Flyrods
« Last post by Dave R on September 03, 2014, 06:23:00 AM »
Bob

Considering the length and weight of your rods, it's no wonder they don't weigh all that much.

Why does a Sage cost more than a Cabelas? Well, as far as I am aware there are three primary factors that affect the cost of a fly rod, or any product for that matter. Cost of research and developement, cost of materials and cost of labor. Being a US company whose products are developed and built in the USA by American workers, I am sure is a refection on the cost of Sage rods or any other fly rods that are made in this country.

Made in America still carries some weight and some folks are willing to pay more for a fly rod made in the USA. Some don't care where the rod is made just as long as it performs the job they need it to do. Others have an aversion to spending a lot of money for a fly rod. To each there own. Thankfully as anglers we have a lot of choices.

Dave
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Urban Angling / Re: Any creek fisherman ??
« Last post by Larry Offner on September 03, 2014, 05:01:07 AM »

There's Jones Creek that runs through Baton Rouge that I fish every now and then... bass, bluegill, pumpkin seeds, etc...
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General Discussion / Re: Casting Performance of $100+ Flyrods
« Last post by bluegillbob on September 02, 2014, 10:31:26 PM »
Tom,

I understand where you are coming from.

When I purchase a more expensive product (machined fly reel) vs. a cast fly reel (lower priced), I expect the more expensive product to be superior, in quality, performance, or another area. Then again, I've seen some cast reels that cost more than some machined reels...where's the rhyme and reason behind that?

Most people believe that a higher price tag represents a better product. A higher quality product. Something more valuable.

We can't argue facts or opinions. We know that a new Lamborghini sells for $400K. A new Vette costs $100K. A new Viper cost $80K. All three cars are pretty much equal in the performance dept. For the extra 300K, you get a car that looks and sounds like the Lambo. You are simply paying for the privilege of owning a Lamborghini.

You asked "what makes a Corvette worth more than a Yugo, if both will travel at the same speed?" Well, the Vette will accelerate faster, decelerate in a shorter distance, and handle much better. A friend had a Yugo, and that thing screamed in top gear (4th) at 60 mph...designed for small European roads. I believe the Corvette is more expensive/worth more because it is a higher quality car, and it is built for performance. In this scenario, the $100K Vette performs better than the $3K Yugo. There is a measureable difference between them. Is there a measurable difference between a $150 rod and a $600 rod in terms of performance? 

You asked "Will an expensive rod make up for poor technique?" In a way I would say "yes." An expensive rod may be designed to be more forgiven. An expensive rod may be better engineered. An expensive rod may be easy to cast. Compare this to golf clubs...some are designed to increase your distance (Think "Big Bertha" by Calloway). Pirelli tires are mounted on the top sports cars...do higher quality tires allow the driver to be more aggressive without developing driving skills?

Skills and equipment can be a tricky combination. I've been told by fighter pilots that a modern day fighter requires less skill than an older fighter jet. The newer jets have computer controls, better electronics, and superior navigation systems. Satellite guided bombs...less skill on a F-18 Hornet than the old F-105 from the Vietnam War dropping them from practice runs at the bombing range. 

Interesting topic...we've included everything from low budget European imports to multi million dollar weapon delivery systems...including fly rods!   

Peace,

Robert
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Restaurant Reviews! / Johnson's Boucaniere: Lafayette
« Last post by Scott Irwin on September 02, 2014, 07:35:12 PM »
I had a great boudin ball sandwich at this Cajun grocery. It's a neat place, no inside dining, you eat on a deck/patio. 1111 St. John St. 70501.
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Urban Angling / Any creek fisherman ??
« Last post by Tie1on on September 02, 2014, 07:29:32 PM »
Thers  several creeks in my area that has some size, maybe 15-20 fee at the widest point, not much over your ankles but with a few deeper holes (waist deep) here & there, a couple thats only a few wide & lined with brush, for years I've been want'n to wade'm  but havent made time, now that I'm eat up with fly fish'nitis I 'm gonna put it at the top of my list, its hot summer time & that water should be nice & cool with plenty of shade.

Just curious if anyone else had a hang up for creeks.
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North Louisiana Fly Fishers / Mysteries of Saline Bayou and Black Lake
« Last post by Scott Irwin on September 02, 2014, 07:24:28 PM »
Unlocking the mysteries of Saline Bayou Wild and Scenic National River and Black Lake near Campti will be the presentation at the Sept. 9, 2014 Nlff meeting. Where to fish, safe kayak water and more will be discussed. Casting at 6, meeting at seven. All are welcome! Presentation is by Ben Dupree who grew up on the shores of these bodies of water. He is the author of his book: A Dying Way of Life. His book is about his youth growing up in this rual part of Louisiana. Join us for a special evening of enlightenment.
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Warmwater Fly Fishing / Re: Whats in your wallet (bug box) ??
« Last post by Tie1on on September 02, 2014, 07:22:29 PM »
Since its all still new to me, I dont know the names of most of what I do have, I do know thers a hares ear, muddler minnow, a few bead heads, a couple grass hoppers, several poppers & a big mouse that I thought was so cool I had to buy it.

99% of the time blue gill are the target fish & they dont seem to be very picky at all, once I polish up on my casting skills I'd like to get hot into carping, that'll push me into it a little deeper & probably have to learn some other flies.

Its all in fun, learn as I go.
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Kisatchie Fly Fishers / Re: Happy days in Alexandria!
« Last post by Scott Irwin on September 02, 2014, 07:12:08 PM »
I got that issue too. It motivated me to purchase a Copic system. I've been tying poppers ever since. It sure is fun.
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Kisatchie Fly Fishers / Re: Happy days in Alexandria!
« Last post by Scott Irwin on September 02, 2014, 07:04:42 PM »
I got that issue too. It motivated me to purchase a Copic system. I've been tying poppers ever since. It sure is fun.
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General Discussion / Re: Casting Performance of $100+ Flyrods
« Last post by Tom Jindra on September 02, 2014, 06:20:20 PM »
Will an expensive rod make up for poor technique? No.

Is an expensive rod worth the money? Lots of people say yes every day, and lots of people say no. And I'm not going to say either side is right or wrong. It's their money to save or spend as they see fit.

Nor is this unique to fly rods. For example:

Is prime beef worth more than choice beef? I'm confident the nutritional value is identical, yet somebody pays the higher price for prime beef all the time.

What makes the $100 bottle of wine worth more than the $10 bottle? Scotch worth more than Bourbon? Single malt worth more than blended?

What makes a Corvette worth more than a Yugo, if both will travel at the legal speed limit?

What makes Fitzgerald better than Hemingway?

What makes Texas barbeque better than Memphis barbeque, and what makes either better than Carolina barbeque?

What makes Lee jeans better than Levi's? Timberland better than Rockport? Diamond rings better than ruby? Black better than white?

The answer is simple: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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