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Ultralight Fly Fishing - For weights 000 through 4! / lightest weight for bass
« Last post by fly fisher bob on December 15, 2014, 04:04:01 PM »
iv been wanting something like a 2wt or 1wt for a while now i know you can catch bluegill on them but what would happen if i hooked up to 1/2lb to a 1 1/2lb bass on i can see it breaking it but im not sure any answers would be appreciated

thank you
   fly fisher bob
Articles / Dec. Fly Lines - The Best of 2014
« Last post by Catch Cormier on December 14, 2014, 07:23:41 PM »
I hate lists so much that I made another!
Articles / Oct. Fly Lines - Some Like It On Top
« Last post by Catch Cormier on December 14, 2014, 07:21:39 PM »
When popper-tunity knocks, fish answer!
Kisatchie Fly Fishers / Dec. 15 Christmas Gathering
« Last post by Catch Cormier on December 14, 2014, 07:01:14 PM »
In lieu of our meeting this month, club members are invited to join us at Copelands on MacArthur for dinner (Dutch treat).  Time is 6:30pm. You can bring a spouse, guest, or whoever.  Dress casual - but NO waders!

Bring $5 or $10 cash.  We'll be raffling off a fly rod.  Some lucky attendee will enjoy fishing with in the New Year!  You must be present to win.
Red Stick Fly Fishers / Dec. 15 fly tying at Orvis
« Last post by Catch Cormier on December 14, 2014, 06:54:03 PM »
Our next fly tying session will be held Monday, December 15, 2014, at the Orvis store in Perkins-Rowe off Bluebonnet. Time is 7:00pm.

Beginners are welcome!  Please bring your tools, materials are provided. If you don't have any tools, the club has several sets for use during these sessions.
General Discussion / Re: Industry force feeding 4-piece rods?
« Last post by Catch Cormier on December 12, 2014, 05:57:38 PM »
You are absolutely correct that the conventional bass crowd refuses to use multi-piece rods, but I would argue their bias is based more on perception than reality.

I agree with Tom, but would add there's a bit of reality too. Prior to my fly fishing renaissance, I was an avid bass tournament angler. The standard casting rods back then were 5 1/2 to 6 feet long - unlike fly rods which were mostly 8 to 9 feet long.  And even though the casting rods have increased in length somewhat (now mostly 6 1/2 to 7 feet), the differential still exists.  Enough that the issue of storage for the bass angler isn't as critical as the fly angler.

If you look at how bass anglers store rods, it's mostly inside their boats (of which bass boats are built for rod storage of 7-8 feet) or inside their SUVs or trucks.  Most of the bass club members I fished with never took an airflight to go fishing, ever.  On the other hand, most fly anglers are like nomads.

I fish a lot of kayak tournaments these days, mostly inshore and a few bass. Most of the participants use 1 or 2 piece rods, and the rods are stored in ready reach or in DIY tubes or in built-in "rod pods".  All of which facilitate a minimum of 2 piece.  There's no reason for yakkers to NOT use 4-piece, but again, there's no reason for them to do so.  Given no incentive, I doubt there'll be a mass exodus to 4-piece anytime soon by tournament anglers. 
General Discussion / Re: Industry force feeding 4-piece rods?
« Last post by jparsons on December 12, 2014, 01:42:49 PM »
Thanks for your reply Tom.
General Discussion / Re: Industry force feeding 4-piece rods?
« Last post by Tom Jindra on December 12, 2014, 11:34:15 AM »
I am somewhat conflicted on waxing. The boys at TFO are adamant that you should not wax. I see their point and have since concluded it's not necessary. Having said that, I've not seen actual damage attributed to waxing, so my advice is not absolute.

So I'll say this:

If you're going to wax, keep the wax to a minimum and watch out for any dirt you might pick up. But wax is not needed if you seat the ferrule properly.

A side note: There is a long tradition in spey-casting of using electrical tape to keep the ferrules from separating. Because of all the shifting paths when casting, nobody stresses a rod more than the spey boys. And when I first got involved with two-hand rods, I read that there were two kinds of spey-casters: Those who taped their ferrules and those who would learn to tape their ferrules.

Then I went steelheading with a buddy in Idaho, and I noticed he wasn't using tape. Al is highly regarded in the spey community and works with Sage in designing spey rods, so I asked. He said it wasn't necessary. He said I could use tape, but it was a waste of time with proper ferrules. It took a fair amount of courage, but I followed Al's advice and quit using tape. It still makes me nervous, but he was right. A proper ferrule that is properly seated will stay put.
General Discussion / Re: Industry force feeding 4-piece rods?
« Last post by jparsons on December 12, 2014, 10:46:36 AM »
Tom, I was interested to see your comments about wax and TFO rods. I use wax every time on my TFO's and it seems to make a difference. I had a couple of occasions where a section of a two-piece rod worked loose and came off during a cast before I used the was. I was probably not seating it hard enough as you mention.

Do you see an issue with continuing to wax if I'm getting good results?

Thank you.
General Discussion / Re: Industry force feeding 4-piece rods?
« Last post by Possumpoint on December 12, 2014, 03:02:19 AM »
I've been fly fishing for many years. Started out with two piece rods and within the past two years have acquired several 4 piece. Broke a new 4 piece 3 wt rod early this year, first time for everything. Break wasn't at the ferrule but about 5" below the tip. Was threading the line and must have pulled too hard. Company replaced tip at no cost to me. That rod was purchased for its medium casting action. It is quickly becoming my go to rod.

I went to 4 piece rods for their carrying convince. Stuffing a long two piece rod into a carrying bag or tube and then getting them to fit inside a storage compartment in a RV didn't always work. I still have several two piece rods that I won't part with. In particular, two inexpensive Shakespeare 7'-6" 4 wt roads that were my go to for several years. As to 2 piece versus 4 piece, I like the casting of both and haven't had a problem with either. I doubt I would notice any degradation in the cast because of more ferrules.

I have a 11' two piece, two handed handle jigging rod that I use with a 7wt line. Works for me but it is a "B" to store any place. Why use that you ask, I was curious if I could make it a salt water rod and it was on clearance for $20. Tested all of my heavy weight lines on it and found a 7 wt casts best.
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